![]() The improved angles make things much more likely to pen at weird angles. What made me do this post was this game, it shouldn't be fine that a cruiser can get 26 citadels in a single game and nuke a full health Yoshino in 3 salvos with ONLY the front guns. But maybe by nerfing a little bit the HE specially for both Des Memes sisters we could encourage the usage of AP and help with the HE spamming issue. Is it a super important topic right now? No, of course not. ![]() But is the only Cruiser AP I would rate higher than US Super Heavy Shells as I would take Salem's guns any day over Moskva's and Kron gunners shared the beer party with the German gunners so they are also drunk. Stalingrad's AP with BOTH improved angles and the insane velocity is completely out of any balance discussion as it's just Stalin's wet dream. Just as a side note: Yes, I didn't mention the ridiculous Soviet AP because Russian Bias used to be a meme but not is a sad reality. US CAs (and CBs) have extremely good AP while having quite good HE, not the best but definitely not bad in any sense as they have both good fire chance and decent damage.ĭon't get me wrong, I love playing the Salem and both CBs (yes I think Salem is just a upgraded Des Moines and PR is really not a bad ship at all, you can do insane dev strikes) and the Super Heavy AP is a complete blast to use but if Germans and Japanese have to choose then some aspects should be nerfed, IMHO the fire chance or HE damage.Īlso PLEASE DON'T say that the balancing factor is slow shells because it's quite easy to aim even at 18km (with both Salem using range mod and the CBs), you might struggle to hit DDs but BBs and Cruisers are easy targets at all ranges, DDs under 12km giving extra leading are also easy targets. What makes this unfair is that unlike Germans or Japanese, you don't have that B S of "you get very good AP but worthless HE" like all the Germans do or crappy AP for the Japanese CAs. Is there some hidden stat that makes Super Heavy AP pen WAY BETTER very angled ships (over 70 degrees) like some shells have in or just some kind of working as intended? Although wouldn't be surprised if it was the second option as you can citadel a Minotaur with Z-52 at over 6km when the guns only have 88mm of penetration at that range and Mino has 101mm of citadel armor. You can take your Moines or Salem and farm citadels left right and center while still having very solid HE yet Zao's AP is almost worthless except for the odd Dev Strike in some broadside Mino. Yes, US Super Heavy AP has better AP pen angles but it ABSOLUTELY SHOULDN'T make that much of a difference. IN PAPER it seems like the IJN CBs should have better AP due to better flat pen and ballistics yet in game you can only get citadels on HMS CLs and every game with Alaska or PR is at very least 5 citadels. What exemplifies this best is comparing Azuma to Alaska or Yoshino to PR. How is that specially things like Des Moines and Alaska can citadel almost any ship (even some BBs) at very sharp angles yet the IN THEORY Japanese AP with better pen (in most cases) is so worthless? Let's get it straight: Super Heavy AP and improved pen angles are dumb. First of: Yes, I know why is so powerful and that is was way heavier than any other AP.
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